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ive followed these instructions http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/content/support/support/upgrade/CDJ400.html
im trying to work serato scratch live with my pioneer cdj-400's. so far ive updated my cdj 400 firmware to version 1.30 and downloaded serato scratch live 1.8.2.
ive got both of my cdj's in pc more and selected deck left and deck right. on serato i manage to load a song to deck a and it shows on the display of my cdj but i cant function it through my cdj. on serato there isnt deck b showing and this is all i have on my screen. any help would be much appreciated.
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Cheers
On a related note, the CDJ-400 will be working natively (not via MIDI) with Rane's Serato Scratch Live in the future (v1.8.x). You'll still need to buy the whole Serato package but the option is there. Pioneer's own PC only DJS software is getting an update in January and will natively support the CDJ-400 as well. Sep 27, 2012 Here's a look at using the CDJ-850 in native HID mode with Scratch Live. /ableton-live-95-keygen-mac.html. Skip navigation. How To Setup Serato Scratch Live. Pioneer CDJ-900 in HID mode with Serato Scratch Live.
Seems to have been Pioneer's worst kept secret in a long time but it's finally here - the CDJ-400. Soon to seen at BPM on Saturday, this as predicted scratch wheeled deck with USB goes quite a few steps further in terms of function and wow factor, having included MIDI as standard, meaning that not only can it be used as a regular deck but also as a MIDI controller for Pioneer's own DJS software (I predicted this ages ago) but of course every other MIDIable software. Well I hope so anyway as Serato is the only one mentioned. Nice.As ever, reams of words from Pioneer Europe:
7th November 2007: Pioneer today announces its new CDJ-400 deck – a flexible, affordable feature-packed performance player for the aspiring club DJ to use at home.
Designed by DJs for DJs and drawing inspiration from Pioneer’s industry standard CDJ-1000 series, this latest member of the world-famous CDJ family is fully geared up to serve the next generation of digital artists. The CDJ-400 allows DJs to play their MP3 collection off CD-R/RW discs as well as music from mass storage USB devices, such as USB keys, external hard drives and portable media devices [1]. The deck also features the world’s first Scratch Jog Effects [2], with three creative scratch effects and an amazing new Loop Divide function. Virtually all of the button and slider functions can send MIDI data via USB output, making it possible for the decks to control DJ software and other applications, such as Pioneer DJS [3] or Serato Scratch LIVE [4] on a PC or MAC. The CDJ-400 deck is a perfect partner for the DJM-400 mixer and together they provide the ultimate home party set–up.
‘With USB, MP3 and MIDI support, the world’s first Scratch Jog Effects and inspirational looping abilities, the CDJ-400 has been designed to keep DJs in tune with the latest digital developments, adding new levels of performance to their sets,’ says Jason Pook, European Product Development Manager, Pioneer Europe.
Key Features
Digital media playback
The CDJ-400 handles CD Audio and MP3 files from CD, while USB connectivity lets DJs draw upon sound libraries on external storage devices [5]. Through the new push-selection Rotary Scroll Wheel and Back Button, users can navigate files and folders as simply and quickly as on many of the leading portable media players available today.
MIDI control via USB
With Pioneer’s finger firmly on the pulse of digital DJ developments, it is only natural that the CDJ-400 can control DJ and music application software. This is achieved by simply selecting the PC Source Select button, so that virtually all of the deck’s buttons and slider can send MIDI control data via the PC USB connection. So when MIDI is the message, the CDJ-400 definitely delivers. For example, a DJ can connect the CDJ-400 to a PC or MAC and play and manipulate files from their favourite DJ application software – such as Pioneer DJS or Serato Scratch LIVE [4] – and this doesn’t even require a time-code disc to be used in the deck.
New illuminated Jog Wheel
With a design inspired by the club standard CDJ-1000 Jog Wheel comes the CDJ-400’s 115mm illuminated platter. You can choose from six different patterns of Jog Wheel illumination and even personalise your own CDJ ‘slip mats’ or jog sheets [6].
New Scratch Jog Effects
In addition to the Digital Jog Break Effects (JET, WAH and ROLL) found in CDJ Mode, Pioneer serves up the world’s first Scratch Jog Effects, BUBBLE, TRANS and WAH, in vinyl mode. BUBBLE simulates a scratch technique and is great for spin backs, while TRANS is like rhythmically transforming with a mixer’s cross fader and WAH resembles the guitar Wah pedal.
New Beat Loop Divide
Can you dance to this b-b-beat? Making the magic of live mash-up even more manageable, the funky new Beat Loop Divide facility rhythmically dices loops to fashion beats with drama, intrigue or whatever your desired effect. It is easily adjustable using its (- and +) buttons during loop playback, thereby creating loops with mind-melting, dancefloor-destroying twists.
Hot Loop and Beat Loop
Besides the Beat Loop Divide, the CDJ-400 lets DJs create flawless four-beat Beat Loops and Hot Loops. For the latter hit the Hot Loop (In/Out point) buttons during a loop to retrigger the loop. Up to 10 Cue/Loop points per disc, for up to 920 discs, can be stored in memory and transferred by USB key between CDJ-400s.
Other key features
1. Tempo range settings available: ±6ï¼…, ±10ï¼…, ±16ï¼… and WIDE [7]
2. Resume function – restarts playback of a disc from the point at which it was most recently ejected
3. Digital Output – connect to Pioneer’s range of digital DJM mixers or other studio equipment
4. Text Mode – displays CD-TEXT and ID3 tag information
5. Reverse play – instant reverse play
6. Shock-Proof Memory and Pioneer Oil Damper Float construction
7. High-quality 7x5 dot matrix display
Specifications
Model Name: CDJ-400
Disc Type: AUDIO CD, CD-R / RW & MP3 CD-ROM (MP3 files)
Compatible Media: USB memory (FAT32 format, MP3 file)
Frequency Response: 4 Hz-20 kHz
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 115 dB or more (JEITA)
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.006 % (JEITA)
Output Terminals: AUDIO OUT (RCA), DIGITAL OUT (COAXIAL)
Other Terminals: CONTROL (φ3.5 mm mini plug)
Audio Output Voltage: 2.0 V
Power Requirements: AC 220-240V (50 Hz/60 Hz)
Power Consumption: 19 W
Dimensions (without package): 217.9 mm (W) × 296.3 mm (D) × 107.5 mm (H)
Weight: 2.7 kg
*1. The CDJ-400 supports mass storage USB memory, but may not support playback of all USB devices or provide sufficient electrical power for them. It cannot play copyright-protected files (DRM).
*2. As of 7th November 2007, according to Pioneer.
*3. Using DJS version 1.5 (update scheduled for January 2008 ) or later versions, the CDJ-400 can control DJS. For further details, visit http://www.proDJnet.com/support/ (website launch scheduled for early December 2007).
*4. Support for the CDJ-400 will be included in Scratch LIVE early in 2008. Scratch LIVE is a registered trademark of Serato Audio Research. More DJ software applications are pending from other companies. However, Pioneer cannot guarantee the performance of third party software on users’ computers.
*5. HFS (MAC OS X) & NTFS (Windows) hard drives are currently not supported. Files must be MP3 format CBR & VBR.
*6. Three jog sheets are supplied with the CDJ-400.
*7. WIDE mode is not available on MP3 files.
Price and availability
The CDJ-400 is available from Pioneer’s distribution network, details of which can be found at www.pioneerprodj.eu. Future video of the CDJ-400 will be available on Pioneer’s community video website – www.djsounds.com. The CDJ-400 will be available from January 2008 with a price of around €550 (excluding VAT).
Price wise in the UK I'm guessing £450 including VAT and God knows what price in the US.
A few thoughts
• Looks kind of hot, especially for the money. MIDI will obviously have the DJ world soiling themselves with software makers readying 'product x ready' stickers. Why was Serato the only one mentioned? MIDI is still beta and only been in that form for a few weeks. And I'm 100% certain you'll still need the full version of Serato. Might have been better to mention Traktor, Cue, Ableton and many other more MIDI capable packages that cost a lot less and are MIDI ready right now.
• Is the inclusion of CD to act as a backup should your USB devices wig out mid set? If you're pimping next gen technology, I personally would have left CD out of the equation and saved a few quid on the unit price. You can always take a backup USB key.
• Looks like the platter isn't quite of the CDJ-800/1000 level, with 'effect' being tagged after the word 'scratch' but I guess I'll find out on Saturday and maybe even film me playing on it.
• The looping sounds good and guaranteed to give punters headaches as it becomes easy for DJs
to break those beats down to ear bleeding nut shrinking levels. Note to DJs - less is more.
• The hot looping seems to be very CD oriented. Again - hot sales point of the CDJ-400 is USB. Let's hope that the same functionality can be applied to USB based beats.
• The USB port may hold some hidden gems as the above release makes note of being able to link it to the DJM mixers. No mystery port this time a la 707/909.
• Pioneer's DJS software gets an upgrade, available in January. Please tell me that includes a Mac version as well.
• What the hell is 'WIDE' mode in tempo settings?
• Like the user replaceable platters. I'm a big fan of making an inanimate object 'yours', provided you don't destroy it with stickers or fugly paint jobs.
One last thing: can we perleeese stop with the 'by DJs for DJs' straplines? I used to think 'X for life' was tired but this phrase has been used, reused, overused and abused at length for way too long.
Overall - well done Pioneer. A little late to the game with USB but MIDI gives you an edge, albeit temporary. Looking forward to playing on Saturday.
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looks nice..
Thankx in adavance.
Ps. Sorry for the crappy english..
How does the switch between CD and midi work?
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(sorry gizmo)
The iCDX did all of this a year ago.
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the jog dial needs to spin at 33 1/3 rpm. maybe then i might give it a try..but this won't ever happen cause those japanese inventors couldn't care less
Spins at 33 & 45 and does MIDI..coming in Jan 08
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Once again Pioneer is far too conservative for their own good.
I hope they sell a bunch because it's good quality either way, but DJ equipment is in such a transitional period that people really need to look years ahead to what they want to do.
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1) How small is that jog-wheel? Compared to the CDJ-200, it must be smaller since the dimensions are the same but the wheel seems to have shrunk.
2) The CDJ-400 will NOT be Serato ready out of the box! This came straight from Pioneer and this thing sounds like a work in progress..
3) Why do the pitch ranges jump from 15% to 100%?
4) Why did they put the mass storage USB jack on the top of the unit? Horrible location.
USB 2.0 or 1.1 ? (me thinks 1.1 since not listed)
How do you search for music on the thumb drive?
(Artist/Title/Album/Year/Genre/BPM)??
How do you find 1 song in 20,000 ?
Only MIDI OUT?
I think Pioneer are trying to play up the connection between the mixer, I think it is just saying it has a digital link so no analogue conversion to lower sound quality.
(Artist/Title/Album/Year/Genre/BPM)??
How do you find 1 song in 20,000 ?
----- Use the select/Push button and back button(upper-right corner). Push the pot down to select a folder/song.
The CDJ-400 will NOT be Serato ready out of the box! This came straight from Pioneer and this thing sounds like a work in progress..
----- Support for the CDJ-400 will be included in Scratch LIVE early in 2008
I think the USB Drive is not mentioned because of latency.
------- use fast USB cards with short access time. CDJ 400 can only use data on USB depending on how fast the card can deliver it! Also CDJ 400 may not support playback of all USB devices or provide sufficient electrical power for them.
Only MIDI OUT?
----- Apparently Pioneer CDJ 400 doesn't want to be controlled. It wants to be the master! The product is most likely (and i'm betting on it) designed to act as an interface when required.
How small is that jog-wheel? Compared to the CDJ-200, it must be smaller since the dimensions are the same but the wheel seems to have shrunk.
----- Small? Yes! But CDJ 400 may not have been designed to give scratch capabilities initially designed for CDJ 800/1000's. More apt if used for scratch effects namely Bubble,Trans and Wah. If they wanted a good scratch function I'm sure the Pioneer talent pool would have used a bigger platter like those on the 800/1000's. Also since ther are 2 modes of use JOG/Viny.I'm sure the scratch feature may be a tad better but nothing to blow your mind!
USB 2.0 or 1.1 ? (me thinks 1.1 since not listed)
----- why bother with 1.1?? Use 2.0 since the data transfer would be faster compared to 1.1!
Why did they put the mass storage USB jack on the top of the unit? Horrible location.
----- Best possible place to insert the USB cards! You would have a tough time if it were placed on the back (especially if its placed in a coffin. Also you would be reaching to the upper left corner to only switch on/off the power (at back).
Certainly looks like a good place!
Why do the pitch ranges jump from 15% to 100%?
---- I think you mean 16% to 100%. With all Pioneer Table tops (most. not CDJ 800/MK2) the pitch range is as follows:
+/- 6% : 0.02%
+/- 10%: 0.05%
+/- 16%: 0.05%
WIDE : 0.5%
However, if the price point is reasonable, I might get one just so I don't have to spend so much on 1000s.
1: No moving platter? Still won't match the CDX for me, and i'm dieing to get my ass off those players, they suck in most every other aspect but i love the wheel.
2: No NTFS harddrives? ermmm, everyone has been damn using NTFS for 3-4 years now?
3: Waveform, pretty please? But at least if it's usable with TraktorScratch, i can just use that
In addition to the Digital Jog Break Effects (JET, WAH and ROLL) found in CDJ Mode, Pioneer serves up the world’s first Scratch Jog Effects, BUBBLE, TRANS and WAH, in vinyl mode. BUBBLE simulates a scratch technique and is great for spin backs, while TRANS is like rhythmically transforming with a mixer’s cross fader and WAH resembles the guitar Wah pedal.
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Does this mean that the dj doesn't do the scratching, but the unit does?
NTFS has to be licensed and if you don't want to pay a ridiculous price, I havn't seen a player yet that supports it. FAT is FINE for this type of scenario.
Where is the 2nd product, I thought there were supposed to be 2 NEW products?
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1) Serato is mentioned because the unit has built-in timecode. You WILL need a full version of Serato (to be released in 2008) in order to take advantage of this. Other software titles are in the works for the same features but the MIDI operation will work with all of them.
2) I'm glad it has CD playback - I still have a lot of CDs and I still sometimes prefer using them to using my computer or other digital storage devices.
3) The scratching is no effect. It's real and it sounds good, even if the jog feel isn't up to the standard of the 1000/800/DVJs, it doesn't slip and it sounds great!
4) Yes, the same looping features can be applied to any audio, not just CD. The new loops ARE fantasticly fun to play with.
5) There is a 'mystery port' but again, it's like every other Pioneer mystery port - diagnostic purposes only.
6) The device is Mac compatible but the DJS software will not be. (I don't think it ever will.)
7) Wide is referred to as 'Wide' because it varies in range. Example.. on the DJV1000, when dealing with CD audio it's +100%/-100% but with a DVD it's +70%/-100%. Same thing applies here but the limitation is that MP3s can't use the WIDE setting.
8) $750 is the MSRP. That's not the MAP or street price. You'll see it for a lot lower than $750 when it hits.
9) The 'other' item which was to be released has been bumped back. Sorry!
10) It doesn't matter which USB protocol this uses - 1.1 is still fast enough to pull the data for playback.
11) MIDI in? Why would you want MIDI input?
12) The scratch effects are audio effects layered on top of the sounds while you play. Eg: the transform effect chops the audio while you scratch.
13) Firmware updates are user-end and can be done via USB stick or CDR.
Here's a quick 'slipmat' I made the other day:
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quote:'6) The device is Mac compatible but the DJS software will not be. (I don't think it ever will.)'
I read this and at first was all indignant about Pioneer's bad treatment of Mac users. But then I put my commercial head on and realised that while there may be a market for DJS on Mac, the development cost probably wouldn't be recouped. I doubt if DJS sells enough copies.